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lyin’ Ted! The Bible held high, he puts it down and then he lies. Most of the time, I win the evangelical vote. The evangelicals, the Christians, like Donald Trump. I’m a straight shooter. [reporter] After a crushing -point defeat in Wisconsin, Trump turned a page, sidelining campaign manager Corey Lewandowski. [Trump] He wasn’t as effective for the last couple of months. [reporter] News breaking that the GOP front-runner, by the way, has hired Paul Manafort to lead his campaign’s convention efforts. Paul Manafort, former partner of mine, the single best vote counter and convention strategist in the Republican Party. When Paul Manafort got publicly named, I got a phone call that day. And it was Roger on the other end of the line. And you know what he sang? “Back in the Saddle Again.” I mean, Roger knows what Roger’s doing. [Manafort] Trump asked me to get involved because my reputation, among other things in politics, is understanding of the convention process, the delegate process. And most of the major successful big conventions over the last years, I’ve been intimately involved in. [man] Did Roger recommend you for the job? Roger was one of the two or three people who strongly recommended me, yes. Even after Roger stopped being the principal political advisor to Trump, he continued to be a very important advisor, and is to this day. [interviewer] I want to start with Roger Stone, because you just launched a pro-Trump super PAC. I thought, A, Donald Trump didn’t like super PACs, B, I thought you quit or he fired you. I’m not still sure what happened there. So what the heck is this all about, Roger? Roger told me when I was very young, “Caputo,” he says, [chuckles] “The media is two things.” They’re either evil or they’re lazy, or they’re both. “And if you understand that, you can do whatever you want.” Yeah, I live a pretty Machiavellian life, and I’m a skeptic. I tend to believe the worst of people because I understand human nature. Human nature has never changed. That’s why one of Stone’s Rules is that hate is a stronger motivator than love. That’s because it is. [Ted Cruz] The National Enquirer published a story. It is a story that quoted one source on the record, Roger Stone. Let me be clear. This National Enquirer story is garbage. And it is a smear that has come from Donald Trump and his henchmen. [Stone] One of the keys to defeating an opponent is getting inside their head. He incorrectly claims that I am the source of this story regarding allegations that he has been adulterous. [Cruz] And I would note that Mr. Stone is a man who has years of dirty tricks behind him. He’s a man for whom a term was coined… for copulating with a rodent. I, of course, am quoted in this story, on the record, saying that it would hurt him badly with his evangelical followers. He has, as you know, attacked me on CNN… Roger Stone has been Donald Trump’s chief political advisor. He planned and ran his presidential campaign. Attacked me on Megyn Kelly. His entire business has been dirty tricks, has been lies, has been personal smears.